This is the question that Beeld posed its readership yesterday and this morning. You could select three options.
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- Yes
- No
- It depends
Want to hazard a guess what to voting amounts and percentages were?
Just to set the scene for a quick comparison in terms of the size of the vote The Mail & Guardian has had a poll up about security and the World Cup after the attack in Cabinda Angola. The poll has already been up for the last three days. Here it is-
Yesterday I wrote about Pik’s call for a new Great Trek. It was’nt a trek to a Volkstaat mind you. It was for a Trek -
“om die land se swart regering te oortuig dat ons mekaar nodig het om ons land te laat slaag.”
A trek to convince the government that we need each other for the country to work.
I suspect Pik is still wedded to the idea of a unitary South Africa. But it would seem that many in the Volk, especially in the North have moved on already.
Is a kind of Volkstaat what Breyten meant when he talked about a newly formulated South Africa?
“This means that conversations, fueled by a moral and practical imagination, about the necessity of a newly formulated South Africa – based in a functioning federal system of states, with equal rights and opportunities for all at all levels, should be created.”
I doubt Breyten himself has a clear idea about what he meant.
Here is Beeld’s results -
Notice that 56% said they would consider living in a Volkstaat.
In the 1990′s the Conservative party and the HNP – who claimed all of SA belonged to the Afrikaners – were the mainstays of conservative opinion, and the Nats had already become party of English South Africa as well. The likes of Karel Boshof, the Volkstater, was seen as crazy. And a bit soft.
At the University of Pretoria that I attended there were two groups of right wingers. There was the Christiaan van Merwe types of far right-wingers. Van der Merwe’s father was a prominent Conservative party politician.
A distasteful lot for the most part and they formed the nucleus of the group that believed that all of SA should be white. Then there were the likes of Willie Spies and Kallie Kriel, who were Volkstaters.
Willie was a person that commanded respect. Quite unlike Van der Merwe devoid of bombastic arrogance and belligerence. Kallie I don’t know that well. But both of them are playing significant roles today in Afrikaner politics. Willie in the Vryheidsfront and Kallie in Afriforum.
It looks like their message is finding fertile ground.
A couple of thousand of Beeld’s readers said that they won’t consider living in a Volkstaat, and some said it depends.
On what?
Perhaps this?
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lets also bring back Christian nationalist education. Won’t that be fun?
My guess is that many people who feel strongly about living in a Volkstaat voted in the Beeld poll, while many of those who don’t want to live there or who don’t feel strongly about the matter did not bother to vote.
Yip Nick, by no means a scientific sample.
But let’s say there’s 3 million Afrikaners. If a UK paper got nearly 200,000 votes on a poll (50 mil / by 3 mil times this polls near 10,000 votes), they would think it rather remarkable.
Another thought. Perhaps they should have included an option – I’m considering emigrating.
Or perhaps in a next poll.
I agree…I think more people would have voted “yes” on “would you consider to emigrate?”, than would have voted for a volkstaat. The fact that a possibility like Orania is still not really seriously considered despite the current dissatisfaction and soul-searching in Afrikaner circles, is a case in this point. Most Afrikaners may consider living in a volkstaat…but only if they can can continue uninterrupted with their current comfy lifestyle, complete with “huishulp” and “tuindienste”, shopping malls etc. The majority Afrikaners seem to find their salvation in materialistic wealth and consumerism and are not willing to sacrifice their comforts to live in a some remote volkstaat. It’s easy to vote in an online poll, but not so easy to put your money where your mouse is.
There is a misconception that only what the VF+ suggest would be “the Volkstaat”. In fact it only means a country run by a certain people for these people (VOLK). It could be any kind of territory. This is somehow the most logical solution.
Just wondering ,with the land ownership,unbalanced as it is.How the volkstaters would like to negotiate for an even bigger slice.@boerinballingskap-hoor hoor !
Hallo Mhambi, First, the poll asked would you consider, there are 10 thousand scenarios (war; genocide,) under which it has to be considered. Secondly the term Volkstaat has got nothing to do with “Staat”, a ethnic territory like Orania with municipality is sufficient. States are parasites by nature, if you don’t believe me try not paying taxes! If we get 3 towns the size of Potchefstroom that is sufficient to house every single Afrikaner (we are not that many left). The point is we will not claim anything, no one can insist on a homeland/ethnic territory (although some right-wingers don’t know that). We do however retain the right to create it like they do in Orania, and if they ask the poll question a 100 years from now, the answer should still be YES, because it should remains as possibility or option. Your friend is under a misconception that an Afrikaner Volkstaat” ethnic territory” would be “eng”, why? I am a very tattooed Death Metal fan and I love Orania (yes I have head banged with the locals in the pub). Lastly when are you coming to visit??
@Boer Afrikaners became middleclass westerners in the real sense of the word. Giliomee states that the average Afrikaner’s wealth come 1990 was 70% of English speaking whites’. A major change form the past.
In that context, it a very very big decision to consider moving to a volkstaat, especially one in an arrid semi-dessert undeveloped part of the country. It does not surprise me that Afrikaners have bulked at this idea up to now. It is a massive mental shift to make. That it is happening says allot in itself.
@AndriesC I know people like Dan Roodt are talking about a volkstaat in the Pretoria region. That would be very unfortunate in my opinion. It will almost certainly need forced removal of many people, cause great & continuing conflict and rob the volkstaters of the moral support they could get with the Freedom Front plusses proposal.
Do you really want to live, like the Israelis in a perpetual state of conflict? Forget about the shopping malls and Waterkloof and you’d get massive support. Trust me, you’ll need it.
@Afrikola, do you see any rush to claim the land the Freedom Front has proposed? A move to the dry west would certainly open up allot of prime land elsewhere in the country, no?
@AttieC, I agree. A volkstaat would have to be interesting on a cultural level, Or the brightest and best talent will go and live elsewhere. If the volkstaat is white only, or bekromp and not plural, it will just a sad curiosity and not a vibrant modern state. Considering the religious bubble many Afrikaners live in that would be a major challenge.
On the other hand, if they lived in a more normal society for a while. And if it developed, and there was peace and security, perhaps a broadening of horisons is more likely develop. SA at present encourages laertrek.
Greetings comrade Mhambi, Christiaan van der Merwe here. Thanks for remembering me, espesially for being belligerent, but alas, please not arrogant. Perhaps I was a bit eager, while protesting against the policies of the late NP’s and yes the ANC, but my fight was defnitely not to resume socalled white supremacy in South Africa. Since the start of the nineties I was promoting an Afrikaner Volkstaat in a part of the North West Cape as part of the South African solution which would have regard to the rights of every other citizen. I think both Willie and Kallie could vouch for that. According to me the Volkstaat ideal is inter alia a way in which more Afrikaners could stay part of Africa than would be the case if imigration were the only alternative to becoming strangers in their own country. The Volkstaat ideal gives Afrikaners an opportunity to regain at least part of their current lack of cultural self esteem and contribute positively in many ways to the country. The principle of “selfwerksaamheid” will certainly contribute amongst other things to rid us Afrikaners of any remaining artificial sense of supremacy. I really do think that all true liberals should consider, without prejudice, to research the true pro’s and con’s of Orania. Only once Orania is truely understood, should they then utter comments on it and then without insults criticize this attempt by certain Afrikaners. I would not be surprised if after such an investigation complements would replace criticism (as was found to be the case with many national and international visitors.)
Ah Christiaan, we meet again.
You say you “Since the start of the nineties I was promoting an Afrikaner Volkstaat in a part of the North West Cape as part of the South African solution which would have regard to the rights of every other citizen.”
Ah sorry, I was under a misapprehension then.
You were quite eager, I have to say. It was quite a sight when you and your chums chased Nelson Mandela from the Tuks campus in 1991.
A question for you. I see allot of people letting off steam in Beeld against the likes of Pik and FW.
As somebody which is not a new volkstater – do you honestly think like they seem to – with all the economic and others interests of whites at the time – that volkstaters could have moved seamlessly from the old apartheid South Africa to a volkstaat in a territory like the Northern Cape? In other words, by not negotiating more constitutional safeguards, have the Nats actually played in the volstaater’s hands?
PS: Do you ever see Hedwig Barry now and then?
Mhambi, I think the attack’s in the newspapers on FW & Roelf and the old nats are done, probably more by disillusioned lefties then Volkstaters, but you are absolutely correct, with more safeguards for minorities and a more stable state and less corruption & crime would work ultimately against the creation of a Volkstaat. I have a question for you, your friend Professor Pierre de Vos, have called the peaceful friendly people of Orania bad names and insulted there culture in a recent article in the daily dispatch, normally I write these things off as backwards ignorance, but the professor is the chair in Constitutional Governance at UCT, given that at least he should now better then making backwards, ignorant and hateful statements against minorities, In your opinion can I sue him for hate speech?
Haai Attie,
Perhaps you can paste the link so we can have a look?
I have noticed that Pierre sometimes goes – what I would regard – over-board in his criticsm of a few things and almost always with regards to George Bush, farmers or Afrikaners.
I feel sorry for the latter two.
He peppers his remarks with insults and digs.
I have wondered why he does this, and all I can assume is that it results from some deep seated issues in his past. Issues that now cause him to belittle and condescend. Perhaps he has an inferiority complex – I don’t know.
Let me first say that I think Pierre’s website is a wonderful platform for debate, despite his occasional odd rants. The quality of debate and the range of people that partake in it is higher than almost any other South African blog I have found.
I have not practised law for years so I’m not the best person to ask about a hate speech case, but without seeing the what he wrote my advice would be to go another route.
Build a website where you collate all the extracts of these instances on insulting and degrading speech. My quess is it would be deeply embarrassing, especially over the long term.
Mhambi,I think this is a far too hypothetical question to grant a serious discussion.Way back in the days of the Bantustans,about 15% of the land was set apart for the vast majority of the people.So to now go for the same size, chunk of land,for a small minority of the people would certainly carry an specific symbolism.The people that would be displaced would be exactly the people with whom the white Afrikaner would need to build a greater coalition with,the brown Afrikaner.Taking for granted that those brown Afrikaners would like to live in a Volkstaat,and the white ones being prepared to share it on equal terms.Looking at the comparrison with Orania, I do not see any brown Afrikaners there,or English speaking compatriots for that matter,it sits on the Orange river ,that makes it agriculturaly viable.As far as I remember there was or is land claims on Orania.As for the not so “eng”,I remember after Malema s visit there was something like four votes for the ANC in Orania.Whereupon started some kind of witchhunt,with some youths being accused of Satanism.My main concern is like always the love of the Afrikaner for Afrikan soil,but the great distrust of her people.One could also look at Christian van der Merwes words like this,”the Volkstaat idea is inter alia a way in which more Afrikaners could stay (A)part of Africa…”.And very few farmers would voluntary give up their prime land for this marginal land ! But all in all this talk of an all encompassing volk is ,but a pipe dream and will allways be,because a lot of water has flown into the ocean since the Boer wars.We have become highly individualised and will continue to do so.Therefore in all this confusion ,always this deepseeted need to be lead by some type of a military leader of days gone by.Read this somewhere recently,”As twee Chinese bymekaar kom stig hulle n fabriek,As twee Engelse bymekaar kom stig hulle n klub,As twee Afrikaners bymekaar kom stig hulle af ” I rest my case.
Brown Afrikaans speakers as opposed to Brown Afrikaners,and then still muddled in the semantics of race and colour charts.As Mia Couto said,Every Man is a Race.
@Mhambi, No I would never really sue anybody for hate speech, was just testing the water, Pierre has as much the right to be a bigot as I do. Besides, anything can be construed as hate speech. If any country has hate speech laws it should be imposed against the government and the government only, otherwise it becomes a tool of central government. As I have said many times no central government should be allowed to discriminate on any basis (apartheid, affirmative action, integration, segregation, arianisation /transformation). Individuals and communities should on the other hand always retain this right for life is nothing but a series of discriminations(choices).
@Afrikola: Where do you get your sources? There was no witch hunt or youths involved with any funny business, there were votes for the ANC in Orania in every election, they are called “Election officials”, yes they are allowed to vote. There will be no displacement of people, every centimeter of land will be purchased legally and labor performed by our own people, so it will not be big it will also not be a country but a ethnic territory, where Afrikaners stay and work, black people can travel through it as with any other place and will not be bared from using any facilities, but we will perform the labor. When you state “Afrikaner love of the land but not the people”, do you mean that we are not a people of Africa? There is a lot of racism amongst Afrikaners with this I will not disagree, but the underling reason is missed, we live everywhere as an ethnic minority and if we can have an excepted cultural/ethnic homeland or territory a lot of the insecurities of existence will disappear and we will become less racist.
@AttieS,if you would Google, ANC votes Orania,you get about 3000+ hits,including my above statement.As for your question being people of Africa,that is up to every single individual to decide,although i believe that it could hardly be achieved through seperateness/apartness and mostly racism.When we look back on Apartheid,you could hardly say there was the insecurities of existance for the Afrikaner during its heyday and this never lead to being less racist,why should it now ? As for performing the labour,I have to agree with what boerinballingskap stated above.
‘When we look back on Apartheid,you could hardly say there was the insecurities of existance for the Afrikaner during its heyday and this never lead to being less racist,why should it now ?’
I profoundly disagree with you on this one Afrikola. Apartheid was partly built on a foundation of insecurity. And part of its its cement was insecurity. The 48 election was the ‘swart gevaar’ election remember.
The 60′s? Verwoerd murdered, most of Africa got independence, Sharpville.
Perhaps the early 70′s could be called a heyday, until 76 came along.
If you read the cabinet debates of that time its clear how insecure they all felt.
You know, here in the UK thje government is vrek bang there be another terrorist attack, because of the exponential rise in racist incidents thereafter.
People here are not really that tolerant. They are just distant.
@Afrikola, Did not see it, but basically he sucked it out of his thumb (creative journalism), I know a lot of people in Orania and that never happened. Independence of the sort practiced in Orania has never been attempted; you can not compare it to apartheid (racial subjection and oppression). And I also agree with Boerinballingskap, most will probably emigrate over the next 2 to 3 generations to majority white countries and be, well boerinballingskap, there they will all of a sudden become (oh so liberal)LOL.
@Mhambi&Afrikola, Now SA’s whites compare favorably to America’s African-American minority in a few aspects. The term racism is sometimes used there the other way around, and if you think I’m kidding, download this short film http://torrents.thepiratebay.org/4735487/ (any bittorent software will do). It is an honest discussion with some serious questions and some unavoidable humor.
AttieS
I once had a long debate with Dollabrand about exactly that. I argued that Obama’s pastor is not unlike Karel Boshof.
On another note see the comment by Joy-Mari Cloete here…
http://mhambi.com/2009/12/the-unbearable-whiteness-of-being/comment-page-1/#comment-1293
Would she be welcome on a volkstaat?
I cant speak for the planners and masterminds,but fot the vast majority it was braaivleis, rugby,sunny skies and chevrolet,and people like Ferdie Barnard,Eugene de Kock and the like was still operating with impunity into the nineties like nothing would ever change.It was also interesting that after Attie challenged my assertation,I went back to look at where I came across it at first.In the process ending up on many brown shirted,Neo Nazi,Teutonic sites,inhabitted with loads of right wing Afrikaners,expressing themselves with their gloves off,about their superior,uberrassige true selves.Not like AttieS and Carel Boshoff would like to make us believe,seperate,but equal ! So let us not be fooled.
@Mhambi: I don’t think that’s a fair argument at all, Karel Boshoff have never preached hate filled sermons calling other people devils, unhuman and other racial slander, if you wanted to compare Rev. Wright it should probably be to old ET. With regards to Joy-Mari, would she fit in with the community, would they fit in with her? It is a fair question for everyone, and Joy-Mari and the community are both entitled to their choices.
Re: Cranks, The reason for Afrikaner loss of power is simple demographics and it is no one’s fault but our own, you will always get cranks blaming Jews, NP, De Klerk, etc.etc. People are frustrated they feel demoralized, disconnected and estranged, In my visits to Orania I found them a lot more positive and I would go so far as to say less racist then the rest of white SA (There is no one to hate LOL). But Orania over time will normalize Afrikaners as a people, even cranks. Orania has to grow a bit bigger to be considered as a cultural homeland but it could allay the insecurities of the rest, just to be able to say: there just across the Freestate, there is my tribal land, my little patch of Africa, we belong here. Have you got the film yet, I know you are going to want to write a post about it, I told oom Willie Spies about our last round of e-mail correspondence, he remembers you from the Perdeby, he said “Hy is n goeie ou”.
@Afrikola: You mean left wing Afrikaners! Calling a racial or cultural minority agitating over forms of minority rights, right wing is as perverse as calling Hitler a hippy.
I take your point on Rev. Wright re hateful speeches, although I think his hate was aimed at the USA, not whites perse.
But Rev. Wright is also outspoken on the issue of self determination for black Americans. In that sense there is a comparison.
Re Joy: You say –
“Joy-Mari, would she fit in with the community, would they fit in with her? It is a fair question for everyone, and Joy-Mari and the community are both entitled to their choices.”
That goes without saying, everybody is entitled to their choices on a day to day and personal level.
But that’s not the same as blanket restriction on people based on some criteria.
Some blanket restrictions are justifiable in my opinion. Like you need to be able to speak Afrikaans to a certain level of proficiency, and even that you need to identity with certain values – like an open society.
But one based skin colour?
Am I right in assuming that Joy-Mari would not be allowed to live in Orania as it stands today?
What if I was to live in Orania, would she be able to stay over as my house guest?
I agree with you that Orania might make Afrikaners paradoxically more ‘normal’. But that remains to be seen. That day can’t come fast enough.
Look it should be pretty obvious to you that I have a lot of sympathy for Orania. I just hope that Orania can steer clear of the pitfall of race. Orania has to be for all who identity with the Afrikaans language and culture.
I promise you next time I’m in South Africa I will come to visit Orania.
I believe South Africa in it’s entirety belongs to the natives of these lands, as taken away from them in 1652 and he who wishes to be separate from my father’s land must Trekk back to the Netherlands or England respectively. Africa is for Africans that’s we have always had only one passport and it’s engraved in our skin
Robert Sibukwe did not die for his children’s inharitance to be spoils of a minority, Steve Biko did not die for his love of his people to controlled by the desires of a minority and Nelson Mandela lives not see his children a victim of his past fears. The idea of one to consider themselves a group within the diverse structures of South Africa show’s how unAfrican they are for the true spirit and esense of being African is belonging to a collective. The day you consider the problems that we true Africans face without a hint or choice of running else where safe and the day you see those problems as your own and not another black thing is the you’ll be African. It breaks my heart to see how 15 years have not changed much in the minds of ungreatful minorities and I sometimes think of Mugabe…what is it that drove that man to do such and you have answered me!
@Black Pac : I agree 100%, but before I pack my bags, get all the blacks out of America all the Blacks and Arabs out of Europe, then I’ll take you for more then a joke. There are Black communities in America, these days also in Europe, muslim communities, Rasta communities, China towns everywhere, on the entire African continent there exist only one, not a thousand only one white town, and that makes you feel insecure, wow!
BlackPAC, I’m confused, you seem to be saying whites should leave Africa, and then that they should not form a separate group. Which is it?
@ kameraad mhambi: hier is ek, al kan jy my nie sien nie.
Kameraad Hedwig!
Toe ek jou naam noem kies Christiaan die hase pad.
Enige opinie oor ‘n volkstaat/ breyten / state of the nation?
What is a Volkstaat? I doubt that something as imagined by the majority ultra right wingers would ever see the light of day in this country. If that was ever on the table, the previous Government should have negotiated it there and then.
As an English speaking South African, sitting in the same boat as the Afrikaner, I am white and male, I fear crime as any Afrikaans/White speaking South African. This does not mean that non-white South Africans don’t have the same fear.
I honestly do believe that a new thought process needs to be adopted if we are ever wanting to achieve a separate state for ourselves.
The common ground should not be based on skin colour or language; rather it should be based on morally grounded principals, mutual respect for each other, religious freedom and practice, sound economic principals and respect for law and order.
A “Volkstaat’ can only work and be accepted nationally and internationally if we as South Africans can argue that our culture – Afrikaans and English is under attack and that we as a people are wanting to rule ourselves.
Going back in History, Afrikaners have a moral obligation towards the “coloured” people who they created. Yet these very same people, who speak your language, adopted your culture, are part of the parcel that you wish to throw away. Why because they are not “white” enough? Yet they too suffer under the current government for not being “dark” enough. They are as Afrikaans as any white Afrikaner, if not more so!!
Forget the Anglo-Boer war. The “English” who caused the misery of the camps, are NOT the English who came here and settled this country as the Afrikaner did and who called this their home too!! During the 60’s, 70’s 80’s and early 90’s, many English speaking South Africans participated and died in the Angola and Rhodesia conflicts, fighting for South Africa, side by side with his Afrikaner brother. Let us not forget the English refugees from the then Rhodesia who suffered huge losses in the 80’s and who are still being persecuted to this very day. What makes them so different to the Afrikaner? Only the language they speak. They are farmers like your people, they pray to the same God that you do.
What should be created is an economically viable “Volkstaat” where the majority of the existing population is either White or Coloured.
Population exchanges can take place – in the demarcated area to allow “would –be- immigrants” from the remainder of SA to enter and those who wish to leave to do so.
On the website http://www.demarcation.org.za one is able to easily find large areas in this country where the majority of the population is either White or Coloured.
In this “Volkstaat” Afrikaans and English will be equal side-by-side.
A creation of a “Volkstaat” does in no way mean a reversal of the current constitutional state that we find ourselves in. Anyone who believes that a “Volkstaat” equals a quasi Apartheid system is wrong. We cannot go back, we can only look forward. No Country in the world would support our call if we dare to even think of an Apartheid form of government.
A new “Volkstaat” must be grounded in the principals of equality before God and before the law.
No racial segregation for those who choose to reside within her borders.
Equality and mutual respect for religious differences. Tolerance and respect must be shown towards those who wish to live within the borders. One cannot want tolerance and respect if one cannot give it.
From an economic point of view the “Volkstaat” has limited resources to offer. Yet, the one single resource which it can use, would be to create vast areas of Solar Powered farms to be 100% self sufficient in electricity. This could be used as a resource which one could export to the other South Africa and other Southern African countries. Water is a scare resource in this area, but the ocean could provide an excellent alternative to this. The Israelis have proven how de-salting sea water can provide sufficient water for human and agricultural use. The West coast is rich in fish and there are diamond and copper mines to assist with economic development for the area.
Provided that we can secure a stable environment, we can become the springboard for high tech development and export into Africa and the rest of the world. The human capital that we have places us decades ahead of any other African country.
Tourism will also play an important role in the economic development of the country.
The last situation that one wishes for is one of conflict. The Velvet revolution which occurred in the then Czechoslovakia would be the perfect resolution for those who wish to reside within this “Volkstaat”. A Yugoslav option is simply not acceptable as the damage and loss of life on both sides would simply be tremendous.
The guiding principals should be the freedom to live without fear or suppression. Equality before God and the Law
Equality of Language, Culture and Religious persuasion.
Respect towards the laws of the country allowing the return of a safe and secure environment for our children and people.
The work ethic to build a nation powerful and independent.
Kameraad Mhambi, very interesting to read through all the comments on Orania, and certain friends. Let me add to Christiaan’s statement: He is not arrogant, and I’ve known him for more than 20 years now.
I have been living in Orania since 1993, and spent many happy and some unhappy days here. My reason for relocating in Orania is devoid of racism. To realise that ethnic survival depends on being the majority somewhere, is not racist.
Personally I agree that we should be more inclusive . During the 20th century, we made an alliance with English speaking Whites, which was mutually beneficial. Some Afrikaners became English, some the other way round, and some don’t know. But by and large, we did not become one ethnic group. That is the way I see the future for Afrikaners and Brown Afrikaans speakers.
To assume every Brown person’s greatest ambition is to be an Afrikaner, is slightly arrogant, but we have much to share, including an Afrikaans future.
As for Afrikola, let me promise you first hand: There were no witch hunt after the 4 ANC votes. Those guys were, as Attie mentioned, election officials. The ANC even had party officials at our ballot. They are workers on a farm outside Orania, owned by a very right wing farmer. Which underlines the irony: The neo-Nazi websites on which Afrikola sees Orania, support us for something we don’t want to be.
Old Mutual says everything starts with a plan. We say hat goes for survival too, and Orania is our plan. If some cranks misunderstand that for racism, and even move here, it doesn’t alter our character – it only makes it more difficult to convince the likes of Afrikola.
Oh, yes. Hi, Hedwig!
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what about a Volkstaat for all Afrikaans speakers in the Northern Cape. The majority of people there speak Afrikaans anyway. So what about a Volkstaat for Afrikaans Speakers, and I mean All Afrikaans Speakers. ???
The first afrikaner Volkstaat was created by Klaas Afrikaner in about 1790. This was in Namibia by windhoek. This Volkstaat has people of All Races in it, and most of the people spoke Afrikaans.
The Volkstaat is a pipedrea, unless it includes ALL AFRIKAANS SPEAKERS.